#angel x ramiro

[anewgayeveryday]

Today's LGBT+ Character is;

Ramiro and Ángel from 1899-Gay

Requested by @admiraleyk

Status; Alive (Ángel deceased in a simulation or something)

[fatherramiro]

Chapters: 1/1 Fandom: 1899 (TV) Rating: Mature Warnings: Creator Chose Not To Use Archive Warnings Relationships: Ángel/Ramiro (1899) Characters: Ramiro (1899), Ángel (1899) Additional Tags: Other characters mentioned - Freeform, Speculation, Canon-Typical Violence, Character Study, Implied/Referenced Cheating, Implied/Referenced Homophobia, Light Horror Elements Summary:

"I am Ramiro Jordão. Born in Lisbon. Today is October 19th, 1899. I will be safe here. I will be safe.”

I can finally share my gift fic for my beloved @dragneto from this year’s Fic in a Box exchange!!!

[exoticlittlebird]

I know there are lots of theories about Ángel and Ramiro’s simulation backstories, and I don’t know if this one has already been discussed, but Ramiro’s dialogue at the end of episode 3 got me thinking...

He says all of this is Ángel’s fault, assuming that “all of this” means the fact they have to run away and that Ramiro killed someone, basically their entire situation. (And before I continue let me be clear!!! I love Ángel. I love his character arc and I love him and Ramiro together. But he is not the greatest dude and the basis of his and Ramiro’s relationship is clearly a little toxic and fucked up, so just hear me out.)

These are the bits of Ramiro’s dialogue in ep 3 that really stick out to me --

-“You made me do all of this.” 

-“None of this would have ever happened. You and I would have never happened.” 

-“And all because of you. Because you can’t control yourself!”

-“You promised you’d change.”

Based on all of that, it’s pretty clear to me that they aren’t running away because a violent priest found out about Ángel and Ramiro being together -- a violent priest found out about Ángel because he got caught with a man (not Ramiro).

Ángel is clearly made out to be a playboy in the beginning of the series, establishing that ~that’s just the kind of guy he is~ (how much of that is just a facade is up for debate). Based on Ramiro’s dialogue here, Ángel has almost certainly cheated on people in the past, quite possibly including Ramiro. And I’m using the term “cheating” lightly because the Ángel we meet does not seem like the kind of person who commits to exclusive relationships in the first place. He and Ramiro most likely just fooled around while Ramiro worked for his family but were never exclusive (Ramiro is clearly in love with Ángel and probably wanted them to be). Ramiro knows he’s done this before. “You promised you’d change.” When they ran away together, Angel promised Ramiro he wouldn’t do it again.

I’m guessing Ángel was with some other man and got caught, either directly by this priest who knows him or by someone else who then informed the priest. When he went to punish Ángel, Ramiro found out and also went to try to stop him or to protect Ángel from getting beaten again (because he loves him so much, my sweet baby). Ramiro intervened, things got physical and it escalated, resulting in Ramiro accidentally killing the priest. He killed the priest because of Ángel. Because he was trying to protect him. If the priest had caught Ángel and Ramiro together, Ramiro killing him would have been self defense. If they had been caught together Ramiro would never say that this was all Ángel’s fault. It would have been a consequence of both of their actions. And in this ep 3 scene, Ramiro finds Ángel’s drawing of Krester and knows he’s been with him. He knows Ángel cheated again and Ramiro finally releases all his pent up frustrations about how their entire situation is a direct result of Ángel’s choice to be unfaithful.

Add in Ángel stating at the end of the scene “I am who I am,” plus his dialogue from episode 2 where he told Ramiro he’s never pretended to be someone he’s not (a cheater a non-commitment type of person). Ángel was careless, got caught with a man, and Ramiro protected him. Ángel came up with their escape plan and convinced Ramiro to go along with it. “You and I would have never happened,” they wouldn’t be stuck together fleeing to America, literally depending on each other for survival, if Ángel hadn’t given in to his wandering eye and gotten caught.

I know it’s nicer to imagine a rose-colored backstory of them as passionate lovers who got caught together and vowed to never leave each other, but to me it just doesn’t match up with the conversations we’re given in the show. They’ve got a fucked up past and a twisted relationship, but that doesn’t make me love them any less!! The whole second half of the series shows us how much they truly love each other, and at the end of the day their real relationship outside the simulation probably isn’t as fucked up as this one, so yeah. End of thoughts!!

[spacer4t]

So what do you your three favourite shows have most in common:

Well, here we are...

[cant-get-worse-than-this]

Writing stories in Swedish class and the theme is murder. Finally I can write the idea for Ramiro & Ángel's backstory that I got for like a year ago.

[professionallydeadinside]

18 with ángel and ramiro!!!!!

18. Person A noticing person B is cold and giving them their coat.

Truly, Ramiro would rather they spend as little time as possible on the upper deck of the ship. The wind pushed a biting chill into his skin that no amount of scrunching in on himself seemed to fix, turns out the clothes of a priest don’t do much for insulation. Angel had dragged him up to look at the supposed “view” which was turning out to be less of the ocean and more of the well groomed men congregating on the deck for some type of business meeting. Ramiro was too cold to care. He wondered if he snuck back down if he’d even be noticed by his wandering eyed partner, and if he was, if Angel would be offended by his sneaking off.

That was a risk he was willing to take.

Conscious of the reverberating tap the heels of his shoes gave off, Ramiro began to make his way towards the doors that led inside.

‘Why do I even put up with him?’

Not expecting to be stopped, he jumped a bit when his name was suddenly called out, echoing against the freezing metal.

“Ramiro! Where are you going?” Angel ran up to him and touched the other man’s shoulder.

“Back inside. It’s freezing if you haven’t noticed.”

Angel looked around as if it was just occuring to him that the weather conditions were far from favorable.

Unbothered by this revelation, Angel shrugged off his suit jacket and wrapped it tight around Ramiro’s shoulders. The warmth of his hands rubbing into Ramiro’s forearms proved to provide more heat than the jacket itself.

“Well, stick around until sunset. Dominic and that servant of his said it would look beautiful.”

Angel leaned in until Ramiro could feel his breath along his neck.

“And I want to see if it can even begin to rival you.”

With another squeeze of his shoulder, Angel disappeared back into the crowd as if he’d never talked to Ramiro in the first place. Ramiro pressed the backs of his cold fingers to his face in hopes to spread out the blood that had rushed to his cheeks.

‘That’s why.’

[the-girl-in-the-high-castle]

I did not need to see this again!

Every time, they make the same mistakes. And every time, they die. Because they can’t get rid of their emotions. But that’s what makes them weak. It’s human nature’s ultimate flaw. One shouldn’t base a choice on love, anger, hate. They’re just silly feelings that cloud the mind. — 1899, (fuck you netflix)

[itsalongwaytotipperary]

they may have been doomed by the narrative but at least they had gay sex

[amoureuxpagespoussier]

талигойская баллада : рамиро х октавия. taligoy ballad : ramiro x octavia.

⠀⠀Octavia Alva had amazing eyes, Alan had never seen such an endless evening blue. The duchess did not go to the fiery southern beauties, nor to the stately Taligo aristocrats, and Oakdell remembered that Ramiro had broken off his engagement to Pridd's niece and married a rootless girl, whom he had met almost at the inn. ⠀⠀The scandal came out serious, but the ruler of Canalloa did not care about someone else's opinion. Alan Oakdell bowed ceremoniously. Ramiro quickly raised a thin hand to his lips. He loved his wife, there was no doubt about that. Not just loved - idolized, and she - him.

⠀⠀– Happy to greet beautiful erea. I saw it once at a feast and several times in the temple, but, alas, only from a distance. ⠀⠀– Octavia, unlike me, is very pious. Alas, the angels are supposed to, it is not necessary, to praise the Creator.

photo text:

Ramiro Alva – Traitor

Octavia Alva – Saint

⠀⠀У Октавии Алва были удивительные глаза, такой бесконечной предвечерней синевы Алан еще не встречал. Герцогиня не походила ни на пламенных южных красавиц, ни на величавых талигойских аристократок, и Окделл вспомнил, что Рамиро разорвал помолвк�� с племянницей Придда и женился на безродной девице, встреченной им чуть ли не на постоялом дворе. ⠀⠀Скандал вышел нешуточный, но властителя Кэналлоа чужое мнение не заботило. Алан Окделл церемонно поклонился. Рамиро быстро поднес к губам тоненькую руку. Он любил жену, в этом не было никаких сомнений. Не просто любил – боготворил, а она – его.

⠀⠀– Счастлив приветствовать прекрасную эрэ́а. Я видел эрэа один раз на пиру и несколько раз в храме, но, увы, лишь издали. ⠀⠀– Октавия, в отличие от меня, очень набожна. Увы, ангелам положено, надо не надо, славить Создателя.

[macbeth-s]

1899 + memes [1/???]

[spacer4t]

AWHH

yeah i'm so normal about them

[1899gifs]

[life-love-geekculture]

Angel’s vibe: Is it me? Am I the drama? I don’t think I’m the drama

[exoticlittlebird]

:( what if the reason ángel enters that semi-catatonic state during the calling is because in a past loop ramiro succumbed to the calling and jumped overboard and ángel couldn’t save him and had to watch him die, and even though he doesn’t remember it his body remembers the trauma as soon as the ticking noise starts :( :(

[slightly-teambuilding]

[darkwinged-angel]

Here’s my opinion on the love triangles of 1899:

First things first: usually, regarding love triangles, one easily makes their choice. With 1899, that’s not what happens, cause it’s 1899.

*minor spoilers*

1. Ramiro x Angel x Krester:

Honestly, Angel might have given a whole redeeming speech before his death but he was so arrogant in face of his actions that it doesn’t really feel like he regretted them. Also I think there’s more to Krester’s story since he really doesn’t seem like someone who’d assault people. Then we have sweet Ramiro who should be protected at all costs. This is a triangle right? All angles are connected so we can have Krester x Ramiro and ship Angel back home to his mother.

2. Lucien x Clemence x Jerome

Ok I was sorta suspicious of Clemence at the beginning. Technically, Lucien is a cheater too, he did lie a lot to Clemence and blamed her for something he knew she wasn’t culpable. As much as I felt more sympathy for Lucien than I did for Angel during his redemption speech, I still find Jerome a better person. So Clemence x Jerome.

3. Eyk x Maura x Daniel

Why oh why? Eyk is the sexy german captain, beautified with pain and agony, Daniel is the “I’d do anything and everything for you” lover of the century and Maura is the role model protagonist hanging to the last strings of her sanity with all she’s got and managing to fall in love at the same time. She does deserve a treat, can’t she have both? Yea she can. Also I am incapable of choosing so, it’s Eyk x Maura x Daniel.